monsters. due to the lack of food, mohammed and his family, only two of tens of thousands of starved palestinians risking their lives to feed their families dozens have been killed by israeli fire this week as they waited for aid. hundreds since israel lifted an 11 week blockade on gaza in late may, allowing a trickle of aid in. according to the palestinian ministry of health, the israeli military says it operates to minimize harm to those seeking aid while maintaining the safety of its troops. the united nations warns the entire population of gaza more than 2 million people face impending famine without a drastic increase in aid. paula hancocks, cnn, abu dhabi. >> well, that's it for us. the news continues. the source with caitlin collins starts now. >> tonight, president trump undermines his hand-picked spy

chief and dismisses a european effort to broker peace as missiles are fired from iran at tel aviv once again. i'm kaitlan collins, and this is the source. right now, as we come on the air tonight, there are new waves of attacks happening between israel and iran. i want to get straight to the ground in israel tonight, where cnn's jerusalem correspondent jeremy diamond is reporting for cnn. and, jeremy, tell us what you've been seeing tonight in terms of interceptions and what exactly has been fired? israel's way? >> well, about an. >> hour and a half ago, we saw the latest barrage. >> of. >> ballistic missiles coming from iran. it appears that there were no direct impacts from a barrage of about five missiles. according to an israeli military official. but earlier in the day, or i should say, the previous day, we saw in the

afternoon a quite a significant barrage that showed once again the destructive power of these ballistic missiles in a barrage of 20 plus ballistic missiles. one of them making a pretty significant impact in the city of haifa, very near to haifa's port. we saw a scene with heavy destruction. dozens of people who were injured, including one who was in serious condition tonight, two who were moderately injured. and all of this is coming as president trump is now talking about this diplomatic window that he is trying to give iran to reach a deal with zero enrichment of uranium, which has been a red line for the iranians. but here on the ground in israel, the question is really what happens as they wait for that potential diplomatic agreement or for president trump to greenlight a u.s. strike on that fordo nuclear facility in iran? and what people are saying here is that what is continuing are those barrages of ballistic

missiles. and in iran, of course, those israeli strikes are continuing, which have also caused significant casualties. and so that's put the israeli prime minister in a bit of a strategic bind here, as he needs to determine now whether to go it alone in terms of trying to destroy that fordo facility. or should he wait for president trump to make a decision for the possibility of diplomacy to give way, or for the president to decide to carry out those strikes? caitlin. >> yeah. jeremy diamond, we'll check in with you on the ground in israel as the news warrants tonight. keep us updated. and also tonight, as president trump is facing that decision that jeremy mentioned there, it's a potentially legacy defining decision on israel and iran. and it's one that is critically dependent on the best and most comprehensive intelligence. but it comes as the president finds himself at odds with the nation's top spy chief with zero hesitation when it comes to contradicting tulsi gabbard and increasingly, public fashion what intelligence do you have

that iran is building a nuclear weapon? >> your intelligence community has said they have no evidence that they are at this point. >> well, then my intelligence community is wrong. who in the intelligence community said that. >> your director of national intelligence, tulsi gabbard. >> she's wrong now, that is the second time in as many days that the president has undercut tulsi gabbard and her sworn testimony from just three months ago. >> testified in march, the intelligence community. said iran. >> wasn't building. >> a nuclear. >> weapon. >> what she said, i think they were very close to having. >> that's what the president told me on air force one on the way back from canada. and now tulsi gabbard is defending herself by accusing the media of taking her out of context. she said in order to create division, saying now and i'm quoting her, america has intelligence that iran is at the point that it can produce a nuclear weapon within weeks to months if they decide to finalize the assembly. even that statement saying that it depends

on if iran decides to move forward, does it align with what we are hearing from the president right now? but given gabbard asserts that she was taken out of context when she is quoted by the reporter today and by me the other day. listen for yourself to what she has testified about iran's nuclear capabilities. just back in march. >> the ic. continues to assess that. >> iran is not building a nuclear weapon, and supreme leader khamenei has not authorized the nuclear weapons program that he suspended in 2003. the ic continues to monitor closely if tehran decides to reauthorize its nuclear weapons program. in the past year, we've seen an erosion of a decades long taboo in iran. on discussing nuclear weapons in public, likely emboldening nuclear weapons, advocates within iran's decision making apparatus, iran's enriched uranium stockpile is at its highest levels and is unprecedented for a state without nuclear weapons. >> nowhere in that testimony

does gabbard say what the president is saying today that iran is weeks away from having a nuclear weapon. however, it is certainly an assertion that we have heard from the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, who is now speaking on a near-daily basis with president trump. >> the intel we. >> got and we shared with the united. >> states was a absolutely clear was absolutely clear that there were working in a secret plan to weaponize the uranium. they were marching very quickly. they would achieve a test device and possibly an initial device within months. and certainly less than a year. >> director gabbard's efforts to align herself with the president aren't surprising. she was one of his most enthusiastic backers in the 2024 election. that's why part of why he picked her to become his top intelligence advisor, where she serves now. but for years before that, she was a longtime critic of the foreign policy establishment, even of president trump at times.

>> president trump, your iran strategy has been ill advised and very shortsighted. you need to change course now and get back into the iran nuclear agreement before it's too late. set aside your pride, set aside your political calculations for the good of our country when president trump nominated gabbard as his director of national intelligence, the thinking was inside his world that she'd be different than the other intelligence officials that he clashed with in his first term. >> those who trump derided as passive, naive and once told th to go back to school. but now again, we're seeing the president at odds with his spy chief, and our sources tell us that he was also angered when director gabbard posted this highly produced video, where she was warning about the threat of nuclear war as we stand. >> here today, closer to the brink of nuclear annihilation than ever before, political elite and war mongers are

carelessly fomenting fear and tensions between nuclear powers. >> after that video was issued, the president told people that he thought it was alarmist and he criticized his intelligence chief over it. of course, that happened in private, though, as we are seeing play out on the tarmac today, he is now not hesitating to do so in public. my lead source tonight is beth sandor, the former deputy director of national intelligence. and it's so great to have you here because you know what this position holds and what the job description entails. when you see the president and the nation's top intelligence official not being on the same page, what is the impact of that? >> it is not good, right? because we are at a. >> moment not just. >> related to iran and israel, but think about all the different conflicts that we have going on in this world, from military. to economic. and a lot in between with cyber and other kind of gray zone. and not to

trust your deputy, your director of national intelligence and to actually be having this debate in public is really worrisome because the intelligence community that these are the only people who are going to go into that room and maybe say something that the president doesn't want to hear. so i'm concerned about that. but i also want to say that director ratcliffe of the cia director does seem to be able to communicate right now. so we shouldn't believe that the president is getting no intelligence. >> well, i think what stands out to me in terms of trump undercutting his spy chief, i mean, we've obviously seen this happen before. he did it when dan coats was was the dni after he testified on capitol hill. but we've also seen trump overall undercut the u.s. intelligence community, as he did when he stood next to vladimir putin in 2019, in helsinki and essentially sided with russia over u.s. intelligence assessments about their interference in the

election. but i think what is striking is that they picked tulsi gabbard, he picked tulsi gabbard thinking that she would be, that she would be different, that they would be aligned in moments like this right? >> yeah. but she is showing i mean, i think that that video was not to clear it through the white house to let them know and have the president not be blindsided. i don't i really don't fault her for the testimony at all. and in fact, what concerns me is that actually what both of them are saying can be true at the same time. we are missing the nuance here, and they're talking past each other. and unfortunately they're doing that in public, which means that they don't have a good relationship privately and at some point, for the good of the country, that needs to change well, and in terms of that, i think it makes people wonder, well, is iran on the verge of having a nuclear weapon? >> you know, should we be concerned the president is giving them two weeks, but he's also saying they're weeks away from from being able to, to have

one. i think that is the question here is what does the intelligence actually show here? >> right. well, look, i think that what the intelligence shows is, number one, iran has never been closer to having a nuclear weapon than now. fact. right. number two, they the iaea has said that they can no longer guarantee that iran is pursuing a peaceful nuclear program. they don't know that's the international community. we know iran is conducting research that will shorten the amount of time it takes for them to produce a nuclear weapon. they would be fools not to want a nuclear weapon. the only reason they have this fatwa against producing a nuclear weapon, taking that last step and actually saying, go is because once they say go, they know that we're going to bomb them. if we find out. so, you know, like, i

think that there's a lot of clarity here about what iran would like to do. there's a lot of clarity about what they're trying to do, the lack of clarity, i think, is about how quickly that can be done. and to me, the difference there is the intelligence community is saying, if you want that weapon that actually is going to be put on a missile and delivered perfectly in a warhead and a reentry vehicle, that's going to take months to maybe a year. that's what netanyahu said. but they could produce a crude weapon sooner than that. weeks. >> yeah. of course. key questions about what that looks like. beth sanner, thank you for for laying that out with your expertise. and while iran and israel are still intercepting each other's drones, as we were seeing tonight, missiles as well, the talks that happened in geneva today, they were highly anticipated between iranian and european officials, did not yield any breakthroughs as really, president trump is just dismissing the efforts altogether. >> in the european. >> help.

>> at all. >> in talking. >> with the. >> iranians, that didn't help. >> no. >> iran doesn't want to speak to europe. they want they want to speak to us. europe is not going to be able to help in this. >> whether it's the united states or europe. iran says they are not going to stop anything until israel. they're not going to agree to anything until israel has stopped its military actions that we've seen playing out for well over a week now, something that iran's president told cnn's fred pleitgen, president trump can do something about. >> president trump says he wants to give diplomacy a chance. what diplomacy do you think can happen now? >> the united states, president trump can easily stop the war by only one telephone to a israel. but i don't know why he didn't do that. we believe to a all parts of diplomacy. so i think if mr. trump order to netanyahu to stop the attack, the

diplomacy can be started again easily well, trump has asked about that comment there and whether he'd be willing to make that call. >> and here's what he told reporters this afternoon. >> the iranian foreign minister this afternoon said, if the u.s. is serious about negotiations, that you would call up israel and request that they stop their airstrikes, will you make that request? >> well, i think it's very hard to make that request right now if somebody is winning, it's a little bit harder to do than if somebody is losing. but we're ready, willing and able. and we've been speaking to iran and we'll see what happens. >> my bipartisan congressional sources tonight are two congressmen who just got back from a trip to the middle east. california democrat jimmy panetta and iowa republican zach nunn. and it's great to have you both here. congressman, i'll start with you. just just given the meetings that both of you have had with representatives from saudi arabia, bahrain, the uae there are questions about who can step in here to to help

broker this. congressman nunn, do you believe it is really solely the united states here playing that role caitlin. >> jimmy and i just came back and you're. absolutely correct. >> i believe the united states. >> is at. >> the. >> paramount lead in being. >> able to. >> help bring this. >> to a de-escalation point, something. >> most americans. >> want, something. >> we heard from all. >> of our arab partners, and something i think israel ultimately wants. but i will note this. the president is absolutely correct when he says iran is on the verge of a nuclear weapon. iran has a history of attacking americans, u.s. troops around the region, three proxy groups, one of which took out a hit on the president this summer. were they not stopped? we have a real threat situation here. and i think for the iranians to now, you know, play the victim card here, we forget the last 46 years when they took americans hostage, killed 300 in lebanon, ten more american servicemen like myself, as well as the just shia militias that they've been funding throughout the world. they're taking pot shots at carrier strike groups and could

be a direct threat to the united states tomorrow. if left unchallenged. >> well, congressman panetta, i mean, that has been kind of the context here of the president's decision making process. i do think there's a real question of whether or not this two week window is going to yield anything on the diplomatic front. how are you feeling about that after just getting back from from your visit yeah. >> it seems that the president. has a policy of strategic ambiguity when it comes to iran. unfortunately, i don't think it's as thought through as a. strategic ambiguity we're. >> showing. >> towards taiwan, and we're seeing that based on the fact. that the president seems to be leading from behind. and we see that with the negotiations, the negotiations that were leading up to this conflict show that it was just about like the jcpoa, jcpoa, we see it with the intelligence and that the conflict between his dni, as you so accurately portrayed in the beginning of your show, we're seeing it in this military

action and that israel's leading and now the president has to make a decision as to whether or not the united states wants to go in. despite that, though, i do believe that it is diplomacy that can get us through this. yes, iran has to negotiate with the united states, and two, iran has to give up its nuclear capability. it has to give up its nuclear enrichment capability. >> and i should note, the two of you, the rest of your colleagues in the house, are going to get a classified briefing on iran in the coming days. congressman, if that briefing reasserts this assessment that we heard from director gabbard, which is that iran is not actively building a nuclear weapon, would it change your mind about the president's path here? of what course he should of action he should take? >> yeah. look, jimmy and i are both intelligence officers. we come at this from something that everybody in the public can see right now. there is no reason for iran to be enriching uranium at this level. there's no reason to build a bunker 30 stories below ground. there's no reason to not allow the iaea in here. there is no reason to

continue to sponsor terrorism at $80 billion a year to directly attack your enemies, unless you are aggressively moving in the direction of trying to create a nuclear weapon. now look, the head of u.s., centcom, general kurilla, has already made this very, very clear. there is a direct threat here at fordow. and candidly, caitlin, there's only one country in the world that has the ability to deliver and penetrate 300ft into the ground to destroy a nuclear reactor like this. no one wants to see a forever war. i'm a veteran of this. i do not want to see boots on the ground in iran, but i know that this classified briefing is going to tell us what we basically already realize. iran's a bad actor. iran has had the opportunity to come to the table. president trump has offered the ayatollah the ability time and time again. you have a two week window here where the ayatollah continues to fail to show up for meetings. the responsibility here is on the ayatollah to help the iranian people have a better future, and instead is trying to save his regime as it continues to threaten the entire world. >> congressman panetta.

>> yeah. no. look, once again, i agree with my good friend and my travel buddy zach on this. what we're seeing right now is, is basically the president trying to figure out what he has to do. and ultimately, he'd like to rely on the intelligence of israel. he's trying to. but, you know, what we're seeing is that this type of diplomacy that the president is trying to do, obviously, is something that he's got to get to the table. he's got to go there and basically say, look, we're willing to negotiate with you, but there's got to be 0% enrichment capabilities. we heard that over and over from our our the leadership in the three countries that we travel to. let me tell you, they made it resoundingly clear that they are absolutely fearful of a nuclear armed iran. and we are too. that is an existential threat and something that we need to take seriously. >> yeah, it's always good to agree with people that you're traveling with. congressman jimmy panetta. zachary nunn, it's great to have you both here tonight. thank you.

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there was a nuclear age, but nothing like it is today. and it looked like i'm right about the material that they've gathered already. it's a tremendous amount of material. and i think within a matter of weeks, or certainly within a matter of months, they're going to be able to have a nuclear weapon. we can't let that happen. i was very much opposed to iraq. i was i said it loud and clear, but i was a civilian. but i guess i got a lot of publicity. but i was very much opposed to the iraq war. and i actually did say, don't go in, don't go in, don't go in. >> that's not exactly what trump is recorded saying in the lead up to the invasion of iraq. in his 2000 book, the america we deserve, the president argued that a military strike on iraq might be needed, writing, i'm no warmonger, but the fact is, if we decide a strike against iraq is necessary, it is madness not to carry the mission to its conclusion. when we don't, we have the worst of all worlds. iraq remains a threat and now has more incentive than ever to

attack us. and when howard stern asked trump in september 2002 if he was for invading iraq, he responded and i'm quoting him now. yeah, i guess so. i wish the first time it was done correctly. and the day after the invasion began, trump offered this assessment. >> well. >> i think wall street's waiting to see what happens. but even before the fact, they're obviously taking it a little bit for granted. it looks like a tremendous success from a military standpoint. and i think this is really nothing compared to what you're going to see after the war is over. >> it was not until a year into the war that trump came out against it. that's when he told esquire magazine that the situation was a mess, and that he would have never handled it that way. my sources tonight are the former defense s secretary, leon panetta, who served under president obama, and david sanger of the new york times. and mr. panetta, you know, just looking at this and what you see the president saying now, obviously, i think what happened in the middle east previously

has affected a lot of politicians talk about it these days and a lot of lawmakers. i wonder what you make of what you heard from president trump today. >> well, you. >> know. >> he continues to kind of rewrite. history with regards to. >> what happened in the past. the reality. >> is that. >> that iraq. >> has always served as an example. >> of how the. >> united states can make a terrible mistake by going in and trying to nation. >> build, as. >> we tried to do in iraq. >> that went on for years. >> i was director of the cia. >> and secretary of. >> defense, and. iraq was still. >> going on then. so it was a it. >> was a mistake. >> a terrible mistake. and it's a lesson that the president needs to learn, because if he. >> if he goes. >> in and attacks iran then there's. no question that the

united states would be. >> in a regional. >> war at that point. and the whole question of whether or not the united states ought to be in another middle eastern war will be something that everybody will pay attention to. >> well, mr. secretary, just to to follow up on that, what do you say to people that i hear from in trump's orbit who, when, when we're having this discussion about what the president is considering say, well, this is a strike that we're talking about. this isn't boots on the ground that is up for discussion right now well, yes, it would be a strike. >> it would be a military strike. and it would it would involve, without question, retribution by iran. iran would be striking at our forces in the middle east, and u.s. lives would be at stake. so make no mistake about it, it may be an

airstrike, but it would definitely involve the united states in a war with israel. period. >> with iran. and, david, when you are talking to your sources about this, as we're now in this period of within two weeks, the president says he will make a decision here, doesn't mean we'll go two weeks before he makes that decision, as he clarified today. what is the latest you've been hearing internally? >> well, i think the. >> the two weeks gives. >> two opportunities. caitlin. >> one of them, of course, is for. >> some. >> diplomacy to happen. i can't say. >> that any of. >> us emerged. >> from the meetings. >> that took place in. >> geneva today. >> convinced that the. >> iranians were. >> really getting ready to change their tune, even after. seven days of. >> pretty overwhelmingly brutal. >> bombardment of that killed many of their officers and took. >> out many of. >> their facilities, including some, but not all, nuclear facilities. but i do think that

the the big question going forward is, do these two weeks also allow the president some time to prepare for a bigger and deeper military strike that will get the carrier group that's on its way right now into position, puts him in a better spot to to deal with that inevitable iranian retaliation that secretary panetta was referring to. just now. and it may give the israelis a moment to try their own sabotage of the fordow plant before the u.s. might have to go and use the bunker buster. so it gives the president a lot of options. >> can i ask you, david, on that point, because the president was asked today if he thought israel had the capabilities, he basically said, no, only the united states does. but then he also said, you know, maybe it's a point where the united states doesn't doesn't have to get involved. i just how do you square those two statements? >> the only way i can square

them, caitlin. and i'd be interested to see what secretary panetta thought is that he believes that the israelis have a covert or a commando raid concept in mind. they've been studying fordow for years now. it was first made public its existence in 2009, and that they may have another way to go do it. and they could put a pulse into the electrical system. they could cut off the electricity. they could get inside the mountain. but the most efficient way, of course, would be to use the american bunker buster. but i don't think this is going to be as clean and easy as the president would like to think that you go in, you drop your bunker busters and you leave. >> yeah, obviously, a lot of questions about what this decision actually looks like in the outcomes here. david sanger, secretary panetta, it's great to have both of you and your expertise here tonight. thank you so much for joining us and up next here tonight on the source, a pro-palestinian

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a genocide, for protesting their university. columbia university, that is, investing in the genocide of the palestinian people now, khalil has been freed on bail after a federal judge ordered his release from immigration custody. >> it's a case that has been at the center of president trump's effort to deport protesters on college campuses. my sources tonight are members of mahmoud khalil legal team, mark van der hout and ayesha bhandari. and it's great to have you both. and i want to start with you because you were part of the hearing that happened in new jersey federal court today, and we heard from a spokesperson for the department of homeland security who is saying that judge made the ruling, that made the ruling, did not have the authority to to do so. what's your reaction to that? >> the district court absolutely had the. authority and the obligation to consider the constitutional claims that mr. haleel raised in our system of government, the judiciary plays an important independent role to make sure that fundamental rights like freedom of speech and due process are protected.

and that's exactly what happened today. >> and can you tell us how how he's feeling tonight? >> thrilled to be returning home. but i think as you heard from him, the process took a long time and the government never should have subjected him to detention for even a single day, simply for expressing his political beliefs. and that's a right that everyone living in america holds the ability to express your political beliefs without worrying that government agents will show up someday and lock you up far away from your family, and that that has happened that will never be undone. but today's ruling is important and critical to show everyone else as well that rights can and will still be protected in the united states. >> and marc, you've been working on the case of his in louisiana, where that judge denied his asylum request and a bail hearing. how does that complicate the release today or conflict with that ruling? i think some people might look at this and say, well, what do those two mean together?

>> well caitlin, it's the immigration judge's decision. >> today which. >> which he issued right in the middle of our argument in the district court proceeding today. and i don't think that was coincidental, just shows that the immigration court system is controlled by the justice department, controlled by the executive branch and the immigration judge was, i believe, under marching orders from the department of justice. they were a defendant in the criminal, in the immigration case, in the federal court, and they were ordered not to proceed on the rubio determination. the that that the district court judge declared unconstitutional. and yet she ignored that order today in denying a hearing on bail for him and in denying a waiver which he was eligible for because she still relied on that unconstitutional ground. and it just shows the fallacy in this system, there needs to be an

independent immigration court system. and this showed it today. >> well, mark, can i ask you about what we're hearing from the white house, accusing him of lying on his residency application? they say he misrepresented his employment history on that form. how do you respond to that? is that true? >> it's completely bogus, completely not supported by the evidence. when we had cross-examination in court, in the immigration court, after he explained everything and he answered the questions correctly, the immigration attorney for the government did not even cross-examine him in their closing statement. they didn't make any argument whatsoever that he should be deported under that. and yet the immigration judge still sustained that charge, and there's no basis for that whatsoever. he accurately stated, when his employment and there was no basis for the charge whatsoever. and that's really important for people to know, because the administration is putting out really false statements about that. >> mark van der hout and esha

bhandari, i have a feeling we'll be talking a lot. continuing going forward. thank you for for joining us on this breaking news tonight. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> also here with me is cnn's senior legal analyst elie honig. and ellie, when you look at this, the trump administration doesn't agree with court rulings half the time. and so but my question is if do they have a point to to argue this, what does that look like from here? >> no, they don't have a point. and it's really important. >> to understand what we call the mahmoud khalil case is really two separate cases. >> playing out on. >> parallel tracks. you just. >> illustrated that. >> for. the audience. >> on the one hand, there's an immigration case, immigration judges, immigration courts, those are all over in the executive branch. but separately, what khalil did here is he filed what's called a habeas petition in our regular courts, what we call our article three courts, federal district court judges. that was miss bandari's part of the case. and if there's a conflict between the two, as we see now, district court judge says he has to be released from custody. immigration judge says no. the district court absolutely has

to. trump, no pun intended, has to tence over the immigration court as the district judge recognized today, there is a long history going back hundreds of years that our regular courts take precedence. and if there's a conflict, that's how it has to be. there was a moment today when it looked like the administration was going to fight that, and that could have led to a real standoff. >> can i get your take on something else tonight? just on the legal front, while i have you? it's not related to this, but but to trump and to a degree. today he was calling for a special counsel to investigate former president biden on claims of fraud that obviously aren't true. he posted that a special prosecutor must be appointed. our sources are telling cnn that the doj is not going to do that, but they will have a u.s. attorney overlook this instead. what does that what would that look like? >> okay, a couple. >> things. >> a couple things majorly wrong with this. first of all, this is not what any kind of outside prosecutor should be appointed for. you don't appoint an outside prosecutor or a u.s. attorney to chase down wild political fantasies about 2020. in our history going back to watergate, we've only seen that

kind of prosecutor when there's some actual nugget of potential criminality. that's number one. number two, if you are going to bring in an outsider, this is why we have special counsel. so at least the public has reason to think this person might be credible and independent. if donald trump appoints a trump appointed u.s. attorney to look into this, a guess how it's going to come out and be? why should anybody have faith in the credibility and independence of that investigation? >> elie honig, as always, two very different ranges there. but thank you for always being able to bring it down for us. up next here, vice president jd vance, you saw in los angeles today, he sent a message visiting an ice command center after the protests that we saw there and also slamming the governor over his immigration policies. governor newsom just responded. here's what he said. >> but also. >> federal officials. >> i heard you found someone special. >> yeah. >> is that. >> dog food. >> in the fridge? >> it's not dog food. it's fresh meat, veggies. >> for peta. >> that's peter should have.

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>> after he was there on the ground defending president trump's decision to take over the national guard and bypass governor gavin newsom by deploying them during those protests. and as he was speaking to reporters tonight, j.d. vance took aim at california democratic senator alex padilla after he was forcefully removed from that press conference that was being held by the homeland security secretary. kristi noem. >> because the. >> fact. >> well. >> i was hoping jose padilla would be here to ask a question. >> but unfortunately, i guess he decided not to show up. because there wasn't the theater, and that's all it is. you know, i think everybody realizes that's what this is. it's pure political theater. >> of course, when the vice president said jose padilla raised some questions there, we did just hear from a vance spokesperson a few moments ago who said, quote, he must have mixed up two people who have broken the law. my political source tonight is former new york city mayor bill de blasio. and it's great to have you here. do you think the vice president's comment there was an accident, or how do you read that? >> it's never an accident.

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and place. do you think that's likeke, is that the way a democratic governor should be handling the administration? what's your view of this? >> i think that's smart of gavin newsom, certainly for his political future, but also to get democrats back on the offensive. you know, i think democrats at the grassroots are saying fight more. they're saying to the leadership, like, get a pulse, fight back. and newsom has been doing a good job of that. now, i would also say, because i was in this situation taking on trump as a mayor and also dealing with unrest after the murder of george floyd in democratic cities, mayors and governors better get ahead of disruption, get ahead of any violence and protest very quickly. don't give any context or space for them to try and bring in the national guard. >> well, and speaking of mayors, we are on the verge of a democratic primary here in new york for new york city mayor. today we saw jim clyburn, who has been a kingmaker in politics at times, come out and endorse former governor andrew cuomo. as we are getting closer and closer to tuesday, i wonder what you made of that. just given the

role that clyburn could have, the influence he could have on new yorkers. what's your view? your view of that? >> i have the deepest respect for jim clyburn. but he does not move votes in new york city. and in the end, what's happened in the last few weeks is an incredible tightening up of this race. now, you know, i went through a race where i was i was in fourth place about six weeks before the primary in 2013. this has even been a factor. yeah, absolutely. this has even been a faster change. it looked like andrew cuomo was going to walk in. now. zoran mamdani in particular has made this a real horse race. and don't count out brad lander adrian adams. there's a number of candidates who have been surging lately. so i think we've got a fascinating contested primary on tuesday, and then we may see a contested general that we never saw coming. >> and who do you plan to vote for on tuesday? >> well, i'm not going to share that with you, caitlin, but i'm going to say it won't be andrew cuomo. i'm telling everyone, don't rank andrew cuomo. here's a guy who had to resign in disgrace as governor. he's unfortunately corrupt. he lies with great regularity. and he would set new york city back.

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and they should talk immediately before it's too late i flew with president trump on air force one yesterday. >> he arrived late last night in calgary to head to the summit with world leaders. he had an entire day of meetings scheduled for tomorrow, including a meeting i should note, with the ukrainian president, volodymyr zelenskyy. but the white house has decided to cut this trip short so the president can return to washington tonight, citing exactly what is happening inside the middle east. i'm told by a white house official that the president has directed his national security team that remains in washington to convene inside the situation room. and, of course, this comes after the president posted earlier on truth social that the millions of people who live in tehran should evacuate immediately. it's not clear exactly what prompted the president's warning to people who live there. >> we've always. >> said that you don't believe iran should be able to have a. >> nuclear weapon. >> but how close. >> do. >> you personally.

>> think that. they were to getting one? >> because tulsi gabbard tulsi gabbard. >> testified in march that the intelligence community said iran wasn't building a nuclear ben zipperer. >> what she said, i think they were very close to. >> having. >> yeah. our colleagues in israel have confirmed that there was another conversation between president trump and the israeli prime minister. what's facing the president is a critical decision, and that is whether or not to get the united states more militarily involved between what's happening between israel and iran. so far, for months, the president has sworn off any kind of military action. the united states would take inside the middle east. but now, after efforts to pursue a diplomatic deal, didn't go anywhere, we are hearing from sources that the president is open to the idea of having the united states assist israel and using u.s. planes and bombs to take out iran's nuclear program we just got called into the oval office. we had about a five minute heads up before we were ushered in. as the

president was meeting with the fifa president and the juventus soccer team. but of course, a lot of the questions focused on what is unfolding with the situation between israel and iran. >> can you walk us. >> through what contributed to that change, how you got to to where you are and making your decision now? >> well, i think it started the first night. that first night was devastating and it really knocked the one side off. as you know, a devastating, devastating evening day and pretty much proceeded that way. i have a meeting in the war room in a little while. >> does that mean. >> you haven't made a decision yet on what. >> to do? >> i have ideas as to what to do, but i haven't made a final. i like to make the final o decision one second before it's due, you know, because things change. i mean, especially with war, things change. with war, it can go from one extreme to the other. wars. war is very bad. >> based on the fact that there's a substantial chance of

negotiations that may or may not. >> take place with. >> iran in the near future, i will make my decision whether or not to go within the next two weeks. that's a quote directly from the president for all of you today. >> at the end of this two weeks, though, there is going to be a concrete result here. jake. either the united states does strike iran or they do not. and the question is how the israelis take that. what that looks like. the prime minister said today that he does believe they are fully capable of achieving their goals in iran, with or without the united states. and thank you so much for joining us. cnn news night is up next. >> this is. >> cnn breaking news. >> good evening. >> i'm sara sidner. >> in new. >> york in for abby phillip, breaking news for you tonight.